Jul 11, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]
Profession: Mo/Me
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tons of knockdown
I've been running this since gwen came out in RA. Basically you can pretty much keep a monk out of play about 85% of the time, it doesn't do huge dmg but it still does some and you have enough variance in how the skills work that something like blind doesn't completely disable you.
[build][coward!][Grapple][Hammer Bash][Crushing Blow][Iron Palm][Irresistible Blow][I meant to do that!][resurrection signet][/build]
attribs
14 hammer
13 strength
rest in deadly arts
Usage is pretty obvious but anyway:
Use Grapple then IMTDT! to gain 4 strikes of adrenaline.
Coward! is now charged, use it if the monk gets up and starts kiting
If they stand and toss up guardian use Irresistible blow
HB + CB meets req for IP to KD
repeat - most monks can't do anything for the majority of the match.
counters:
well timed Returns
energy denial - this is a fairly energy heavy build for a warrior
blind - to a certain extent, though coward/grapple/iron palm are uneffected
anti-melee - see blind
Variant:
Warriors Edurance might work although Grapple will end it, On Yourr Knees would probably be a good choice to swap for IB in this case
You're all Alone!
Bulls Strike but you'll probably need to get Rush on the bar as well.
Different hammer elites
Last edited by cgruber; Jul 11, 2008 at 01:55 PM // 13:55..
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20
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#2
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Emo Goth Italics
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Why not just run a Magehunter's with 3 KDs, and maybe put Shock in for a fourth kd...?
[magehunter's smash][crushing blow][hammer bash][bull's strike][shock][flail][enraging charge][resurrection signet]
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39
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#3
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Droknars Forge
Guild: No Goats No Glory
Profession: Me/
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shock on hammer war fails, need the energy.
magehunter, and heavy is enough.
Bulls strike should always be in a war build.
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41
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#4
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Emo Goth Italics
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I disagree. I never have energy problems on hammer Warriors.
Although I don't often run Shock on anything but axes. 3 KD's is enough but I think this guy wants some sorta super-ultra-awesome knocklock build.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:43 PM // 13:43
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#5
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]
Profession: Mo/Me
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I agree with both of your points, to clairfy this is basically a complete shutdown/knocklock build (until you run out of energy anyway, which you will if you don't watch it). In order for it to work of course you need a team that can provide pressure while the monk is disabled, which is going to be most of the time unless they are able to Return away.
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Jul 11, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: New Zealand FTW
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law]
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Unless its a very specific build, shock on a hammer isn'f FTW.
Magehunters, hammer bash, and bulls strike is a pretty good way to go.
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Jul 11, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37
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#7
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2008
Profession: Rt/
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[KD Spam; OQkSE5JPGWxiizEfVAAAAAA]
Nothing but knockdowns is kind of a gimmicky build.
But if that's all you want to do, give this a shot for PvE
Last edited by AcousticMeanie; Jul 11, 2008 at 07:40 PM // 19:40..
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Jul 11, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45
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#8
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP]
Profession: Me/Rt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cgruber
counters:
energy denial - this is a fairly energy heavy build for a warrior
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I don't think energy denial would be a problem, I would think just plain energy would be a problem. I picture running this and raping a monk - then standing around and dancing (literally, the /dance emote) until the rest of the team killed everybody else. Maybe since you're dominating the monk so hardcore it's over in like thirty seconds so it's not an issue?
Anyway unless I'm wrong about the energy, I'm pretty much with everybody else, Magehunter's+Bull's+Hammer Bash should be more than enough to take out a monk who's down on his ass, plus have the ability to continue attacking.
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Jul 12, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22
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#9
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Germany
Guild: PaRe
Profession: W/
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[skill]grapple[/skill][skill]"I Meant to do that!"[/skill][skill]devastating hammer[/skill][skill]pulverizing smash[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]"for great justice!"[/skill][skill]enraging charge[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill]
this one is nice to get a long row of KDs without giving the enemy any chance to stand up for a long time (something like 15 KD in a row) just make sure jou have the stomefis insignia and dont use a knockdown while the enemy is still down.
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